Comments on: The Latest ‘Crude’ Review, Wrong Like Most of The Others http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/11/05/the-latest-crude-review-wrong-like-most-of-the-others/ The National Association of Manufacturers Premier Manufacturing Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:34:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Carter Wood http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/11/05/the-latest-crude-review-wrong-like-most-of-the-others/#comment-14134 Carter Wood Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:12:26 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10476#comment-14134 Oh brother. Who cares if Ecuador is a nation of laws? So how many critical comments you allow on the Amazon Watch blogs there? Oh brother. Who cares if Ecuador is a nation of laws?

So how many critical comments you allow on the Amazon Watch blogs there?

]]> By: Daniel http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/11/05/the-latest-crude-review-wrong-like-most-of-the-others/#comment-14133 Daniel Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:59:55 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10476#comment-14133 As usual, Mr. Wood zeroes in on technicalities about the case to argue that the plaintiffs and their supporters are guilty of distortion, while studiously avoiding addressing the real issue at hand: that Texaco (now Chevron) made a colossal mess of the Ecuadorian Amazon between 1964 and 1990. Who cares if it's technically called a class-action suit according to Ecuadorian law? Ecuador doesn't have a mechanism for a lawsuit to be filed that names 30,000 people as plaintiffs, unfortunately... but the bottom line is if you go to the affected region in Ecuador and ask people in the communities whether they see themselves as represented by the lawsuit, they'll generally say yes. This lawsuit originated with the communities affected by Chevron's pollution, not with scheming lawyers as you seem to think. Carter, I wrote recently about you and the obfuscation-based style of argument you seem so fond of. You and your readers might be interested: http://bit.ly/5pyDOe As usual, Mr. Wood zeroes in on technicalities about the case to argue that the plaintiffs and their supporters are guilty of distortion, while studiously avoiding addressing the real issue at hand: that Texaco (now Chevron) made a colossal mess of the Ecuadorian Amazon between 1964 and 1990.

Who cares if it’s technically called a class-action suit according to Ecuadorian law? Ecuador doesn’t have a mechanism for a lawsuit to be filed that names 30,000 people as plaintiffs, unfortunately… but the bottom line is if you go to the affected region in Ecuador and ask people in the communities whether they see themselves as represented by the lawsuit, they’ll generally say yes. This lawsuit originated with the communities affected by Chevron’s pollution, not with scheming lawyers as you seem to think.

Carter, I wrote recently about you and the obfuscation-based style of argument you seem so fond of. You and your readers might be interested: http://bit.ly/5pyDOe

]]> By: Alex http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/11/05/the-latest-crude-review-wrong-like-most-of-the-others/#comment-13497 Alex Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:22:02 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10476#comment-13497 You keep insisting that this is not a class action suit, as if just by force of repetition you could make that true. But it is a class action suit, and you have to know that by now. Even the comment that you link to by the ADC's spokesperson says the opposite of what you're pretending that it says, since all she does is explain that it's called something different in Ecuador but it's the same thing (they don't speak English down there, you know). You keep insisting that this is not a class action suit, as if just by force of repetition you could make that true. But it is a class action suit, and you have to know that by now. Even the comment that you link to by the ADC’s spokesperson says the opposite of what you’re pretending that it says, since all she does is explain that it’s called something different in Ecuador but it’s the same thing (they don’t speak English down there, you know).

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