Comments on: What Photo Do You Use to Illustrate Misleading Journalism? http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/ The National Association of Manufacturers Premier Manufacturing Blog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:35:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Carter Wood http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13097 Carter Wood Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:36:49 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13097 I keep a pretty light hand on comments here, but from now on, will not be approving those that are basically name-calling. I keep a pretty light hand on comments here, but from now on, will not be approving those that are basically name-calling.

]]> By: Max German http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13094 Max German Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:18:28 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13094 John, Sorry, I don’t spend a lot of time in the “world of publishing.” But you really got me on that one. You still haven’t explained why The Chevron Pit, Amazon Defense Coalition blog and Chevron in Ecuador blog won’t publish reader’s comments on their site. Again, they are afraid of an open debate, the Shop Floor is not. You keep changing the subject because you can’t defend your previous statements. And my conclusion that you’re an idiot is backed up with facts: your own statements. John,
Sorry, I don’t spend a lot of time in the “world of publishing.” But you really got me on that one. You still haven’t explained why The Chevron Pit, Amazon Defense Coalition blog and Chevron in Ecuador blog won’t publish reader’s comments on their site. Again, they are afraid of an open debate, the Shop Floor is not. You keep changing the subject because you can’t defend your previous statements. And my conclusion that you’re an idiot is backed up with facts: your own statements.

]]> By: john http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13072 john Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:32:35 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13072 Max: I distinguish between "publishing" and "readers comments," a distinction maintained throughout the world of publishing... but, doh! alas I am an idiot, so I guess it does not matter. As for proof, I think your remarks provide good evidence for a general theory of arrogance: when folks fight without facts and reason, they quickly turn to insults. Max: I distinguish between “publishing” and “readers comments,” a distinction maintained throughout the world of publishing… but, doh! alas I am an idiot, so I guess it does not matter. As for proof, I think your remarks provide good evidence for a general theory of arrogance: when folks fight without facts and reason, they quickly turn to insults.

]]> By: Max German http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13054 Max German Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:14:48 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13054 Tek Jansen many ADC and Karen Hinton statements have been proven to be lies. I guess you can identify me as someone who can back up my statements with facts. Read again at http://hintoncommunicationswatchact.wordpress.com/hinton-communication-list-of-lies/ John, the fact that you are posting on this blog completely trashes your own argument and answers your own question about Shopfloor publishing criticism of Chevron. The fact that your comments are posted here proves you’re a hypocrite/idiot. The blog you linked to doesn’t post readers comments. The Amazon Defense Coalition blog doesn’t post them either. What are they afraid of? And John, the blog you linked to seems to be just a tad, um, shall we say, one-sided! Tek Jansen many ADC and Karen Hinton statements have been proven to be lies. I guess you can identify me as someone who can back up my statements with facts. Read again at http://hintoncommunicationswatchact.wordpress.com/hinton-communication-list-of-lies/

John, the fact that you are posting on this blog completely trashes your own argument and answers your own question about Shopfloor publishing criticism of Chevron. The fact that your comments are posted here proves you’re a hypocrite/idiot. The blog you linked to doesn’t post readers comments. The Amazon Defense Coalition blog doesn’t post them either. What are they afraid of?

And John, the blog you linked to seems to be just a tad, um, shall we say, one-sided!

]]> By: Amazonian http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13032 Amazonian Tue, 13 Oct 2009 04:58:20 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13032 Hey John, in case you didn't notice, it's Petroecuador that took over the former Texaco sites, not Chevron. It's Petroecuador's responsibility to clean them up since they are the current owners. Hey John, in case you didn’t notice, it’s Petroecuador that took over the former Texaco sites, not Chevron. It’s Petroecuador’s responsibility to clean them up since they are the current owners.

]]> By: Tek Jansen http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13022 Tek Jansen Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:00:11 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13022 Oh Max, I love when people say that was "proven wrong". Um, where and when? In fact, nowhere was anything "proven wrong" but feel free to go ahead and state that Amazon Defense Coalition is lying repeatedly. Just identifies you as the type of blogger you are. Oh Max, I love when people say that was “proven wrong”. Um, where and when? In fact, nowhere was anything “proven wrong” but feel free to go ahead and state that Amazon Defense Coalition is lying repeatedly. Just identifies you as the type of blogger you are.

]]> By: john http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13021 john Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:48:17 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13021 Your blog, by the way, seems to be just a tad, um, shall we say, one-sided? Too bad you use character assassination tactics while the other side seems to be interested in the facts and actually going to Ecuador and talking with the people who LIVE amongst the ruins of Texaco-Chevron's decades of drilling and spilling. Your blog, by the way, seems to be just a tad, um, shall we say, one-sided? Too bad you use character assassination tactics while the other side seems to be interested in the facts and actually going to Ecuador and talking with the people who LIVE amongst the ruins of Texaco-Chevron’s decades of drilling and spilling.

]]> By: john http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13020 john Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:44:57 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13020 Hey Max, It is not my blog, I just linked to it to provide a counter to this blog. So would Chevron publish critics on their Web site? Are they then hypocrites only interested in pushing their propaganda, according to your logic? Does Shopfloor publish criticism of Chevron? Open debate? Debate this: 916 contaminated pits and a corporation fighting tooth and nail to avoid responsibility for the damage. Hey Max, It is not my blog, I just linked to it to provide a counter to this blog. So would Chevron publish critics on their Web site? Are they then hypocrites only interested in pushing their propaganda, according to your logic? Does Shopfloor publish criticism of Chevron? Open debate? Debate this: 916 contaminated pits and a corporation fighting tooth and nail to avoid responsibility for the damage.

]]> By: Max German http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13019 Max German Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:15:08 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13019 The real joke here is actually John’s blog, “Chevron In Ecuador.” Try posting anything there that doesn’t conform to his point of view and you’ll never see it published. They are true hypocrites, not interested in truth or open debate, just pushing their propaganda. The real joke here is actually John’s blog, “Chevron In Ecuador.” Try posting anything there that doesn’t conform to his point of view and you’ll never see it published. They are true hypocrites, not interested in truth or open debate, just pushing their propaganda.

]]> By: john http://www.shopfloor.org/2009/10/10/what-photo-do-you-use-to-illustrate-misleading-journalism/#comment-13018 john Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:55:04 +0000 http://www.shopfloor.org/?p=10327#comment-13018 Nice try, slick, but you are guilty of what you accuse. All 916 oil pits in the area under legal challenge, including the Lago Agrio area, were created and contaminated by Texaco, later acquired by Chevron. The pit pictured in the NYT photo may indeed be near an operational site run now by Petroecuador but the contamination was there years before Petroecuador walked on the scene. If this is the best you can come up with to try and hide the environmental devastation unleashed over decades by Texaco and bought on the open market by Chevron, then you might try blogging at Comedy Central. Nice try, slick, but you are guilty of what you accuse. All 916 oil pits in the area under legal challenge, including the Lago Agrio area, were created and contaminated by Texaco, later acquired by Chevron. The pit pictured in the NYT photo may indeed be near an operational site run now by Petroecuador but the contamination was there years before Petroecuador walked on the scene. If this is the best you can come up with to try and hide the environmental devastation unleashed over decades by Texaco and bought on the open market by Chevron, then you might try blogging at Comedy Central.

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